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		<title>Comment on www. is not deprecated by Per Wiklander</title>
		<link>http://www.yes-www.org/www-is-not-deprecated/comment-page-2/#comment-1303</link>
		<dc:creator>Per Wiklander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 00:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benjamin T: In the world I live in (the web hosting world) most http servers are reachable (through protocols like ssh and ftp) via a domain name like wwwprod17.farm.hostingcompany.com. Now what is the logic that dictates that Customer Company&#039;s  web site be reachable via http://www.costumercompany.com instead of http://costumercompany.com? Or even that the hosting company&#039;s public facing site is on http://www.costumercompany.com?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benjamin T: In the world I live in (the web hosting world) most http servers are reachable (through protocols like ssh and ftp) via a domain name like wwwprod17.farm.hostingcompany.com. Now what is the logic that dictates that Customer Company&#8217;s  web site be reachable via <a href="http://www.costumercompany.com">http://www.costumercompany.com</a> instead of <a href="http://costumercompany.com?">http://costumercompany.com?</a> Or even that the hosting company&#8217;s public facing site is on <a href="http://www.costumercompany.com?">http://www.costumercompany.com?</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on www. is not deprecated by Benjamin T</title>
		<link>http://www.yes-www.org/www-is-not-deprecated/comment-page-2/#comment-1302</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 19:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really know how people reason sometimes. You do have different machines for different things (okay, my wardrobe server does http/ftp/mail/loadsofotherthings, but I&#039;m talking production environment), right? Now, assuming you don&#039;t just use an umbrella host (like the bare domain) and clever routing, you usually have one IP for each server (even more so when IPv6 gets some air under its wings). One subdomain for each IP. So, my http server should have the subdomain www. Easy.

&quot;Adding a www. subdomain to your domain for accessing the web page is like adding a mail. subdomain to your domain for your e-mail address&quot;. Now, what reasoning is that? Ever heard of MX records? Most mail servers does, indeed, run on mail.domain.tld; however, there are also MX records pointing to that server so that you can use the bare domain name for mailing. Completely different story. Completely unrelated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really know how people reason sometimes. You do have different machines for different things (okay, my wardrobe server does http/ftp/mail/loadsofotherthings, but I&#8217;m talking production environment), right? Now, assuming you don&#8217;t just use an umbrella host (like the bare domain) and clever routing, you usually have one IP for each server (even more so when IPv6 gets some air under its wings). One subdomain for each IP. So, my http server should have the subdomain www. Easy.</p>
<p>&#8220;Adding a www. subdomain to your domain for accessing the web page is like adding a mail. subdomain to your domain for your e-mail address&#8221;. Now, what reasoning is that? Ever heard of MX records? Most mail servers does, indeed, run on mail.domain.tld; however, there are also MX records pointing to that server so that you can use the bare domain name for mailing. Completely different story. Completely unrelated.</p>
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		<title>Comment on www. is not deprecated by Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The ultimate goal here is to reach at least a few of these people and turn some of the lights on in their heads.&quot;

You don&#039;t reach/teach confused people by doing something that can only be explained by saying, &quot;You don&#039;t have to do it, but I just think it&#039;s better this way.&quot; Especially when it&#039;s an issue nobody agrees on.

If you want people to better understand the internet, remove the confusing bits and leave only what&#039;s necessary. Nobody, and I mean nobody, who isn&#039;t technical will ever understand what the hell the www is there for, but they will continue to use it (without knowing  why) as long as webmasters keep it around.

Take it away, and the internet will make just a tiny bit more sense to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The ultimate goal here is to reach at least a few of these people and turn some of the lights on in their heads.&#8221;</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t reach/teach confused people by doing something that can only be explained by saying, &#8220;You don&#8217;t have to do it, but I just think it&#8217;s better this way.&#8221; Especially when it&#8217;s an issue nobody agrees on.</p>
<p>If you want people to better understand the internet, remove the confusing bits and leave only what&#8217;s necessary. Nobody, and I mean nobody, who isn&#8217;t technical will ever understand what the hell the www is there for, but they will continue to use it (without knowing  why) as long as webmasters keep it around.</p>
<p>Take it away, and the internet will make just a tiny bit more sense to them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on www. is not deprecated by Dirk</title>
		<link>http://www.yes-www.org/www-is-not-deprecated/comment-page-2/#comment-1283</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 15:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adding a www. subdomain to your domain for accessing the web page is like adding a mail. subdomain to your domain for your e-mail address.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adding a www. subdomain to your domain for accessing the web page is like adding a mail. subdomain to your domain for your e-mail address.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Redirection by Benjamin Donald-Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.yes-www.org/redirection/comment-page-1/#comment-1279</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Donald-Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 23:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have used this and it&#039;s great.
&lt;strike&gt;I have used no-www.org .htaccess file and it&#039;s great too!&lt;/strike&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used this and it&#8217;s great.<br />
<strike>I have used no-www.org .htaccess file and it&#8217;s great too!</strike></p>
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		<title>Comment on www. is not deprecated by Norbert</title>
		<link>http://www.yes-www.org/www-is-not-deprecated/comment-page-2/#comment-1276</link>
		<dc:creator>Norbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The author said:
&quot;Until 1994 commercial activity on the Internet had been prohibited;[...]Overall, though, this isn’t a bad thing. Sure, there are banner ads and spam, but the Internet also brought us Linux and eBay.&quot;

Linux, was started by Linus in 1991, by March 1994 V1.0 was released. Hence the lift of the commercial activity ban in 1994, could not possibly have any influence on the genesis of Linux. And therefore none of the woes associated with the lift of that ban on commercial activities can be balanced &quot;Overall&quot; by the existence of Linux. Linux pre-existed these woes!</description>
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&#8220;Until 1994 commercial activity on the Internet had been prohibited;[...]Overall, though, this isn’t a bad thing. Sure, there are banner ads and spam, but the Internet also brought us Linux and eBay.&#8221;</p>
<p>Linux, was started by Linus in 1991, by March 1994 V1.0 was released. Hence the lift of the commercial activity ban in 1994, could not possibly have any influence on the genesis of Linux. And therefore none of the woes associated with the lift of that ban on commercial activities can be balanced &#8220;Overall&#8221; by the existence of Linux. Linux pre-existed these woes!</p>
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		<title>Comment on www. is not deprecated by IO ERROR</title>
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		<dc:creator>IO ERROR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 23:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those aren&#039;t URLs, for one thing.

Eventually a DNS-based approach may resolve that problem, but that will be a long time coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those aren&#8217;t URLs, for one thing.</p>
<p>Eventually a DNS-based approach may resolve that problem, but that will be a long time coming.</p>
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		<title>Comment on www. is not deprecated by Mark T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 22:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw, those auto-linked URLs in the previous post were not supposed to be - I had only typed plain text; stupid pattern matching - if I want autolinked URLs, I&#039;ll specify an http:// prefix!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw, those auto-linked URLs in the previous post were not supposed to be &#8211; I had only typed plain text; stupid pattern matching &#8211; if I want autolinked URLs, I&#8217;ll specify an http:// prefix!</p>
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		<title>Comment on www. is not deprecated by Mark T</title>
		<link>http://www.yes-www.org/www-is-not-deprecated/comment-page-2/#comment-1252</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 22:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those who purport that it&#039;s better to have www.example.com as you may also have irc.example.com for a web interface to IRC, or ftp.example.com as a web interface to FTP (WTFLOL?! :))...  Why would you not go down the route of having example.com/irc, example.com/ftp and example.com/foobarservice?  Services as hostnames are just spurious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those who purport that it&#8217;s better to have <a href="http://www.example.com">http://www.example.com</a> as you may also have irc.example.com for a web interface to IRC, or <a href="http://ftp.example.com">http://ftp.example.com</a> as a web interface to FTP (WTFLOL?! <img src='http://www.yes-www.org/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> )&#8230;  Why would you not go down the route of having example.com/irc, example.com/ftp and example.com/foobarservice?  Services as hostnames are just spurious.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Redirection by TheCosmonaut</title>
		<link>http://www.yes-www.org/redirection/comment-page-1/#comment-1250</link>
		<dc:creator>TheCosmonaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m running into a strange thing with this: the code above works fine in all instances EXCEPT if I click a non-www link in Gmail... any ideas what might be causing that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m running into a strange thing with this: the code above works fine in all instances EXCEPT if I click a non-www link in Gmail&#8230; any ideas what might be causing that?</p>
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